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Eli Portnoy (The Brand Man Speaks!)

Derrick, interesting post about auto dealers. I have done some branding work in this arena and have different opinions on this subject.
1) Consumers buy primarily on price and convenience. Although the service experience might be key to repeat business the consumer rarely makes any effort to deal with service until after the purchase...if they have to deal with the service group during the sales process it highlights concerns about the reliability of the product which sales folks wish to avoid at all cost.
2) The product is more important to the consumer than the dealer. A bad dealer experience does not necessarily make a consumer change the product/brand choice.
3) Consumers may indicate they want an emotional connection with their dealer, but their behavior shows they care very little about the dealer other than getting a good price and having no service hassles. The connection they seek is with the product brand.
4)Many times consumers will drive hours to buy a car not because the dealer experience is extraordinary but to save a buck...this is an expensive purchase and the actual out of pocket is more important than the sales experience for most despite complaints.

For example one of the country's most successful dealers for a European luxury brand has a reputation for being arrogant, nasty and uncaring (both in their sales and service). Despite this poor standing they continue to be a top selling dealer, breaking records yearly. Consumers say the dealer's proximity to their homes/work and their pricing offsets the lousy experience...the brand trumps the dealer.

Saturn was able to build their brand based on consumer satisfaction with the sales experience but found in the long term the product brand was more important than the dealer brand.

Some dealers have tried the no-hassle pricing approach and abandoned it because consumers still want to negotiate price...to "win" by getting a deal.

I agree it would be wonderful for dealers to embrace the unquestionable (in our minds) benefits of branding their retail entities but I have found in my work, especially the focus group work I have done in this industry, that dealers feel there is little incentive to develop a dealer retail branding effort. They feel the investment would be a waste of limited resources better suited for results through promotional marketing.

Eli

Stephanie Enders

Hi Derrick,

This post carries a unique yet very needed message.

1. Desperation
I agree with Eli on the point that customers want to win and say they 'got a great deal.' However the dealers have a lot of room to improve the sincere human relationship. It's all too obvious that they are rushing to the sale. It's too obvious that that their "survival depends on moving the metal." True, they have to sell cars to stay alive---but some of the desperation needs to be concealed. I have never been to a car dealership that doesn't scream DESPERATION. When someones food is brought to the table from a commission check
what other choice is there right? What about the dealerships changing the commission/salary structure of the sales people. Take some of the desperation out of the job that puts that puts the food on the table. Probably out of the question but a thought to chew on.

2. STAY IN TOUCH is one of the most overlooked actions in the sales industry. I have received a very rehearsed phone survey on "customer satisfaction" after a sale---but this is not what I'm talking about. If the car salesperson called or sent a personal email to see if "I'm happy with the purchase" what an impact that dealer would make on me. Don't say they don't have time--I see 'the standing around time' to wait for the next kill. Talk about 'missing the boat' If car dealerships think that having a relationship post sale would be a waste of time then forget about missing the boat---the boat is already sunk.

Stephanie

Eli Portnoy (The Brand Man Speaks!)

Stephanie
Absolutely agree with your comments...especially about the boat already being sunk.
A change in dealer brand behavior would take a very enlightened dealer owner/manager. I have met a couple, but the actions/steps required to re-train a hard-core car selling staff would take more effort than the dealer owners I have met would be willing to invest.

It would, in my opinion, take a dealer owner that wasn't totally in it for the money...made his/her money elsewhere..and was just passionate about the business. This would be necessary so that the investment in the re-branding process and the resulting changes could be tolerated.

We all know major re-branding efforts take time, sometimes years to have full impact. Dealers tend to have very short attention spans...wanting more sales NOW not in ten minutes.

But how great it would be for one dealer to make this evolutionary change. It probably would require hiring sales people who had never sold a car before to be able to adapt to more consumer friendly, brand and loyalty building activities.

Eli

Derrick Daye

Eli & Stephanie thanks for your comments.

Eli, let me bring you closer to my thoughts on this, beginning with your points numbered...

1) Consumers buy primarily on price and convenience.

Why is this? On price: The perception (and reality in most cases) is the dealer has stripped everything but price from the buying experience. That is, money is all that matters. On convenience: What reason does the consumer have to go out of their way? Without a point of difference there is no reason. It is indeed a cold sea of sameness.

2) The product is more important to the consumer than the dealer. A bad dealer experience does not necessarily make a consumer change the product/brand choice.

I agree. But how does this impact an auto dealer? It's no secret customers share bad brand experiences with approximately twice as many people as they do good brand experiences. Clearly bad experiences deliver lost sales. Now, after decades of poor treatment consumers are heading for the internet, demanding something better and are determined to find it. The days of consumers only considering the product are over. The future is reserved for the dealer who gets this.

3) Consumers may indicate they want an emotional connection with their dealer, but their behavior shows they care very little about the dealer other than getting a good price and having no service hassles. The connection they seek is with the product brand.

Eli, talk to a woman who has been insulted and intimidated by an auto dealer and ask her if low price and no service hassles are enough to keep her from going to another dealer. They want something more and today they will search until they find it.

4) Many times consumers will drive hours to buy a car not because the dealer experience is extraordinary but to save a buck...this is an expensive purchase and the actual out of pocket is more important than the sales experience for most despite complaints.

What is out there for the consumer that is willing to pay more for an exceptional buying experience? Sounds like a big opportunity.

To a few more of your points...

“Saturn was able to build their brand based on consumer satisfaction with the sales experience but found in the long term the product brand was more important than the dealer brand.”

How unfortunate for the consumer.

"Some dealers have tried the no-hassle pricing approach and abandoned it because consumers still want to negotiate price...to "win" by getting a deal."

Eli, you have to look at no-hassle CarMax - now in 22 states they are predicted to be a 20 Billion dollar business within a decade. No-hassle is becoming the new "win" for many consumers.

"I agree it would be wonderful for dealers to embrace the unquestionable (in our minds) benefits of branding their retail entities but I have found in my work, especially the focus group work I have done in this industry, that dealers feel there is little incentive to develop a dealer retail branding effort. They feel the investment would be a waste of limited resources better suited for results through promotional marketing."

Eli, what else would dealers say? It's clearly time for a new flavor of Kool-Aid at the dealership. How about a taste the customer likes?

Eli Portnoy (The Brand Man Speaks!)

Derrick
Good rebuttal points in all.
Some follow up.
First, we are on the same page...I would love to see dealers create a point of difference that met or exceeded consumer expectations.

Second, I have talked to women at length about the buying process. They do say they hate the way they are treated by dealers, BUT, and a big but, their buying behaviors still were governed in the majority of cases by price not customer service. Women did not want to find out or tell a "guy" that they paid more for a given vehicle. The dealer that treats a women buyer with care and still gives a great deal can be a winner.

There are more women in car selling today than ever before, but again, I found that women buyers found women salespeople surprisingly difficult to work with and not a better experience. The key is the nature of the beast...and the kind of business automotive selling is.

Third, CarMax has been very successful you are correct. Yes, taking price negotiation out of the equation is a key but also the expansive multi-brand inventory with product guarantees superior to regular used car dealers is a major reason for their success...more than just the no haggle pricing posture. They also score well for trade-in ease at fair market prices. It helps that they need the inventory as part of their selling strategy...used cars are less a factor at new car dealers than it used to be as so many trade-ins go directly to auction.

Fourth, Saturn discovered that their business declined after a while when they only focused on the buying experience and didn't do a better job at developing the product brand. If you review current Saturn marketing you will see they have gone back to more traditional auto industry ways, selling product. That is not to say that they can't do both well, but they have chosen not to.

Again, I will say that change could and should happen but it will require a very enlightened dealer owner...for branding to take hold the way we envision branding requires the commitment from the CEO on down and I have found few dealer CEO types that have the training or inclination to embrace branding.

Eli

Derrick Daye

Eli,

Good points.

We both know it all comes down to that one dealer who has the will and vision to start a revolution. A dealer who can turn things upside down to make them right. I've been looking for this dealer and so have millions of car buyers. I hope she reads blogs and reaches out.

Derrick

Lewis Green

Derrick,

Excellent post and great insight on sales and marketing generally.

If auto dealers had to depend on my family to make a living, they would have sunk to the bottom of the ocean long ago. To us (and to most of our friends and family members) cars equal transportation and nothing more.

Unlike other products and services where we do connect and are driven by our emotions, not so with cars. We own three--an '88 purchased new, an '87 acquired through a death in the family and a '98 purchased recently because my '90 was totaled. Each is a different brand and model. Each was purchased based on what we were willing to spend, based mostly on research into their reliability.

Are we typical or atypical? Don't know.

As a marketing consultant, I agree with your post. But I don't serve the auto industry and before applying general principals, I research every client and their industry carefully, as general principles don't positively impact revenues. Specific strategies and tactics applied to specific clients wants and needs melded with an understanding of their customers and their competitors are what we need to recommend. (I know you know this--just saying it to explain my position.)

So, while I think you have laid out principles that drive successful sales and marketing, I think that if we take on any client in auto sales (or the industry generally), much research needs to be done, many questions asked, and goals established with strategies and tactics customized to meet those goals.

General principles just don't solve problems. Instead, they are a starting point, and you have done a great job getting us on the road to discovering solutions.

Joni

Thanks for the clear and practical post. I definitely agree that auto dealers would profit tremendously by catering to the women's experience at the dealership....whether service or sales. Also, not "wasting critical opportunities". I would also broaden this term to apply to auto dealers spending a huge amount of money on print advertising and missing the boat on "free" publicity via publishing in print or on the web.
Lot's to say so little time.
www.jenningsandersonford.com

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